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| john christopher 23 Jan 2005, 9:05 | ce n' est pas une blague, enfin une2eme reedition de AL avec une chanson nouvelle, editéé, overdubbée......... |
| winnizkid 23 Jan 2005, 9:55 | Non parce que vous croyez vraiment qu'on va voir des choses nouvelles sur cet Absolutely Live 2? Laissez moi rire !!! On y retrouvera des chansons de Detroit, Aquarius (Crystal Ship a coup sur, la seule chanson qui aurait pu apparaitre unedited sur un album live elektra des Doors selon moi), du Live In America, et en bonus extra peut etre, comme tu dis; un titre de Philadelphia inédit, ou Boston 70. Je me souviens : 2003 will be a great year for new releases ! 2002 aussi, 2004 aussi, et enfin des superbes nouveautés pour 2005 !! Un DVD hommage pour la mort de Sugermann, un ! The 21st Tsunami Doors... |
| UniversalMindz 23 Jan 2005, 10:51 | Je reste sceptible à l'approche d'un "Absolutely Live" n°20646... Sérieusement, j'espère qu'il y aura "une nouvelle chanson éditée" sur le AL 2... |
| john christopher 24 Jan 2005, 11:25 | derniere news sont: new boxset of the complete studio albums, en DVD audio dolby 5.1. Un DVD avec histoire complete des doors racontée par les Doors ( l' histoire d' un mec qui chantait" Monnlight drive" en 65 sur la plage, serait elle incomplete, Ray???????) Rares photos studio de 67 vont etre publiées ( ou????). Et j' en passe. Enfin ca emane du manager des Doors lui meme, on peut faire confiance a 80%.......... J' oubliais, un sampler nous est promis avant la fin de l' eté 2005........ |
| john christopher 24 Jan 2005, 11:34 | le topo complet pour ceux qui y croient encore......January 23rd, 2005 Hi, All: Jeff Jampol here, manager of The Doors. I wanted to take some time to post a message, introduce myself, and address some of your questions/concerns. To me, they are almost ALL valid concerns. I guess, too, that this is sort of a mea culpa. I have been friends with, and an advisor to, Danny Sugerman for many years. We formalized our arrangement when we became official partners in late 2003, and The Doors subsequently approved us as co-managers to handle The Doors' affairs from December '03 onward. There were SO many pressing issues when I came on board, and I have literally been trying to do three jobs at once: Manage The Doors, learn all of the back history that I didn't already know - and from a business point-of-view, not just a fan's, and (whew), plan for the future. As you all know, there are/were, in addition to all of the above, several pressing issues, legal and otherwise, that have consumed a fair amount of time as well. However, during all of this time, it has ALWAYS been our aim, and our intention, to super-serve the Doors existing fans FIRST - you guys are, to coin a phrase, our "bread and butter," both literally and figuratively, and you are the ones who not only have paid our bills for the last thirty eight years, but you also carry the critical mantle of keeping The Doors, and Jim's words and ideals, alive for the next generations that will follow you. And to me, these ideals and words are more important than ever - so please do not for a MINUTE think that we don't realize that there is no one more important on this planet to us than YOU are! And I say this in all sincerity, and from the bottom of my soul - for, to me, this job is not just a paycheck, but a spiritual journey- I hope that doesn't sound too cheesy- and an important mandate, for a LOT of reasons that eclipse mere income (though, to be forthright, that part ain't bad). Now, with the sad news of Danny's passing, it is even MORE important to me to carry the torch, if you will, not only for Jim and The Doors, but for Danny, too, and the ideals HE embodied during his life keeping the legacy alive. Sure, everyone is human, and we ALL have our shortcomings (and I have MORE than my share, to be sure) - but The Doors and I loved Danny, and Danny LOVED The Doors - I can only hope to bring a fraction of the passion, commitment and knowledge to this task that he did, for the majority of his life. With all of that being said, I am now pretty much caught up with day-to-day affairs, and we are now deep into the planning stages for the future. The highest priority for us is to look forward to new issues, new unreleased material, and to preserve and grow the Spirit of The Doors and Jim Morrison - yes, exposing new generations to them, but first & foremost, to keep YOU guys in the loop, and give you what we know YOU want first. For, after all, we can go out and try to win new fans one by one, or we can keep YOU guys happy, and you will spread the word to hundreds of thousands! This is not rocket science - it is fact, as well as much-deserved respect for the people who are responsible for us being where we are in the FIRST place. From a straight dollars and cents point-of-view – not that this is relevant, because it is NOT, to me – the BMA releases do not make money for us, or, in extreme cases, they turn a modest profit at best. If anything, they cost us, because the economies of scale are never realized, and in the major-label model, as archaic as it is, one must sell hundreds of thousands of copies before you get into the black. And no BMA release will ever reach that level, nor are they designed to. BMA was founded, and will be run by me, under the same pretext – that we wanted to provide the true hardcore fans with archival material from The Doors that, while not having the potential to make any big bucks, was nevertheless important to our fans, and to the continuation of The Doors’ legacy, both from a documentary and an archival/historical perspective. So, although we do not make much money from BMA, per se, I can assure you that we will keep BMA alive, and active, and will be starting an ambitious release plan commencing this year. Plus, a lot of these recordings are just plain fun, and a great aural snapshot of a time, an energy, and a magic, which all of us here want to keep alive. There is an ideal which pervades The Doors that transcends mere economics – it’s IMPORTANT. I can go into this topic at length, but don’t want to divert from already too-wordy letter. I will, however, attempt to write to you guys occasionally, expounding upon MY thoughts, whatever they are worth – just to give you an inside look at what I am thinking. Remember, I am just one voice here, but I hope and pray that I can & will speak for some of your thoughts and desires as well. If so, I will have done my job, and if not, I shouldn’t be here anyway. I am here to serve The Doors, AND you guys – as a bridge between all of you, and the music business at large. Hopefully, I will be fluent in all these languages – I am trying! But, to do so, I need your help, and I welcome your input. And, even though you may not hear from me all the time, know that I am here, and The Doors are here, and we want to hear what you have to say. Moreover, we are willing to act upon what you say, wherever it is feasible to do so. A few months ago, I asked Dave (Familiar Freak) to post a poll online here, asking you guys for your thoughts on what you’d most like to hear from the vaults. You have responded in great numbers, and I have spent the last couple of months conferring with several Doors experts, the band themselves, the estates, Bruce Botnick, and others, trying to determine what we have, what we DON’T have, what we can do, and what should be released. The answers you gave were very helpful, and, indeed, have served as my guide in looking into this project. You should know, too, that I speak with Dave/Familiar Freak several times a week, and he will continue to be involved with us in several capacities moving forward. Know that he reads everything here, and he & I talk about what’s happening, what you guys are thinking, etc. Dave is also an invaluable asset to me as I reach out to collectors around the world to determine what is available for us to draw from. With all of that being said, I have told Dave some of our plans, given him the go-ahead to tell YOU, and, in addition, I can elucidate for you here some of what will be coming up as we move forward. Here are some of the projects we now have in the works: • We are compiling a “Grand-Master” list of material for the coolest, most comprehensive four-CD compilation of live Doors recordings ever put together. These will range from early ’67 to ‘70, encompassing the best of the best. Many people are working on this with us, and I will update you on our progress; • My intention is to have at least ONE new BMA release ready for you before the end of Summer ’05. There are several possibilities we are working on, including a few surprises! Not sure WHAT the release will be yet – perhaps a sampler of what’s coming, perhaps a historical piece – no decisions have been made yet, and most importantly, the band have not weighed in with their opinion yet; • We are working on a couple of different book ideas – stay tuned on this! • We are working with the band on a feature-length documentary of The Doors – the WHOLE story, as told by the band themselves, which will tell all, reveal all, and give the entire story that no one has ever heard, in its entirety; • Bruce Botnick has just completed remixing and remastering EVERY Doors studio album in full 5.1 surround and DVD-A – these will be released as a box set first, and then probably packaged along with a re-release of all studio albums next year – ALL repackaged to look like their original, vinyl counterparts, much like the album covers looked in the “Complete Studio Recordings” box set. All of them will be re-mastered again, as well, using the latest digital technology, and will contain some VERY interesting outtakes, alternate takes, etc. • We are planning to winnow down ALL Doors product out there, and to do away with any & all superfluous packages, etc. next year – we will be left with each studio album, ONE hits album, ONE hits double album, ONE live album, and ONE box set ONLY – all repackaged remastered – and, possibly, with different material, esp. for the double hits CD, the live album and the box set, which could, conceivably, be all new. • As most of you know, we have been doing remixes of some of The Doors songs – so far, with Snoop Dogg, for a videogame, “Need For Speed II,” The Crystal Method, Paul Oakenfold, and BT. We are also in the process of doing a collection of underground/hip-hop DJ remixes. The Doors are EXTREMELY popular in the underground DJ culture, across the board, and across many musical genres -instead of so many of them just sampling The Doors for background, we thought it would be cool to work with some of them, not only to present The Doors in the best possible light, but to carry The Doors’ torch to some of the DJs’ fans themselves, so they can discover, on their own, what you have already found – hopefully, these potential fans will find the same thing here that WE all have. That is, the original pristine Doors recordings and the original lyrics, poetry, message, ethos and sound embodied there; • We are also in the process of 86ing a LOT of the substandard, tired, old Doors merchandise out there. So much of it is cheesy, uninteresting, unimaginative and not worthy of The Doors’ legacy. We have been working with a team of artists and designers to bring out an entirely NEW line of cool, worthwhile and innovative merchandise. New T-shirts, jackets, photos (never straying from the original “DOORS” logo – if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it); • We have unearthed a whole treasure of never-before-seen photographs of The Doors, many of them photo-studio shots from ’67! We will be getting these out there, on merchandise, in packaging, and in print, soon. There is more, but these are just some of the things we are working on for the coming 24 months. As we get caught up to speed and move ahead into the future, the sky is the limit. Of course, these are ambitious plans, and of course, things change, so NOTHING is cast in stone. But we fully intend to bring all of these things to fruition, and you guys will be the first to know what’s happening (I hope!). In the meantime, I am accessible to any & all of you – if you have questions or comments, please get them to Dave/Familiar Freak, and he & I will go over them – I will give him the answers, and will disseminate them to all of you through the boards. I may contact a few of you via e-mail, if that’s OK with you, just to solicit some random opinions/comments/input from time-to-time as well. I hope, too, that I can count on your support, personally, as I take on these tremendous tasks. It’s nice to know that someone is out there, and appreciates what I do (aside from the band, of course). Thanks for taking the time to read this….well….diatribe, and hopefully I can get the chance to know some of you and converse with you soon! Jeff Jampol The Doors Music Co. Los Angeles, CA |
| winnizkid 24 Jan 2005, 17:07 | Mais bordel ! Encore des rééditions, toujours des rééditions...En 5.1...génial, qui écoute de la musique en 5.1? On veut les concerts en intégralités, et il veut nous refiler un Sampler ! Quoi? Que vont ils ajouter au premier Sampler? La vérité, c'est qu'ils savent que leurs sources sont très vites épuisables. Ils cherchent a se faire un max de fric avec les memes sources. Sampler, 1,2, Absolutely Live 2, Live In Hollywood, Live In New York, Box Set 97 etc... Désespérants. Je regrette déjà Surgerman ! :-D |
| winnizkid 24 Jan 2005, 17:11 | ...Puis son effet d'annonce à trois balles, genre je suis à l'écoute des fans d'en bas...C'est Sarko le nouveau manager des Doors ou quoi? Je vois la gueule du documentaire d'avance: on va voir Manzarek dans un hamack sur Venice avec une chemise Hawaienne se rappeller de sa rencontre avec Morrison, Densmore sera en photo avec une voix off piquée sur la vidéo "no one here gets out alive", Krieger chez son dermato a nous raconter que les filles criaient Jim Jim et qu'il crevait de jalousie, et enfin, Ian qui va expliquer qu'il connaissait pas Morrrison mais qu'il le ressent dans ses chacras depuis qu'il l'imite. Enfin bref, que du bonheur. |
| Sagittaire 24 Jan 2005, 18:09 | trop fort lol |
| Modeste et Pompon 24 Jan 2005, 19:44 | De quoi vous plaignez-vous, nous allons avoir Philadelphie au complet. Les 4 premières chansons sur Absolutely Live, les 4 suivantes sur le Box Set, les 4 suivantes sur le Sampler et les 4 dernières sur Absolutely Live 2. |
| UniversalMindz 25 Jan 2005, 13:47 | Honnêtement j'ai hâte, une soif comme parmis d'autres: d'entendre Bakersfield, Cow Palace, Dallas (complet please avec Riders On the Storm), New Orleans... Peut-être que ça va paraître naïf, mais j'espère qu'en dehors des concerts: Cinematheque 16, la session du 8 décembre 1970 complets, font surface... Ainsi que peut-être des chutes, footages sur une sortie de HWY... Toutes fois, je me dis: "Ne rêvons pas trop, je reste méfiante aux ouvertures d'esprits du nouveau manager des DOORS' et de Manzarek" |
| john christopher 25 Jan 2005, 14:12 | moi, tout ce que je vois et lis, j' essaie entre les lignes pourtant, c' est un nouveau coffret des albums studio ( 3 eme mouture), une nouvelle panoplie de t shirts , stickers a balles trente dont tout le monde se fout a part les beaufs americains qui courent derriere RManzarek, et un remix de "No one here gets out alive ", avec 30 minutes de bonus, genre tournée des 21 dc merde en coulisses a Trifouillis les oies, mais surtout pas de release d' un concert complet des Doors originaux, un soupcons de live audience, best of " boot yer butt" avec 2 nouvelles chansons, que du mercantile pour moi, nothing to please the REAL fans........ |
| winnizkid 26 Jan 2005, 8:46 | Mais moi je n'attends que ça, la nouvelle collection désigned by Robby Krieger himself: moi je commanderai le pantalon treillis Doors, et la veste de type polaire Damart by The Doors. Ca c'est le look Doors..! |
| UniversalMindz 26 Jan 2005, 13:31 | Ben, Ray, qu'est-ce-tu fous ? J'attends mon pull-over ro"ooooo"se avec "I hate D21C", moi... *A pleurer... comme tu le souligne john: "nothing to please the REAL fans........"* |
| Christophe 26 Jan 2005, 13:35 | Everything is fucked up as usual ..... Moi je rigole quand je vois ce charognard de Indianswirl1973 nous proposer sa foutue compilation de merde des titres que Mr voudrait voir sortir officiellement alors qu'il possede deja toutes les bandes ! C'est comme si moi je disais : j'espere qu'il vont sortir Ship Of Fools de Bakersfield 70 , cette version est tellement bonne ! Précision : Et si ça ne sort pas je m'en fiche puisque je l'ai deja . Autrement dit : Je me fiche complétement de votre gueule . Si ils pouvaient avaoir la bonne idée de sortir les mixages stéréo et mono en plus des multi canaux ... Si ils pouvaient penser a inclure un coefficient " downmix " sur leurs DVD-Audio , pour ceux qui ne possedent pas de 5.1 ça éviterait de s'écouter un dolby digital de merde .... Ou alors qu'ils nous fassent un nouveau mixage stéréo qui contiendrait les bonus contenus dans les mixages multi-canaux ( car ils vont faire comme le LA Woman je suppose ? ) Et puis merde , le DVD-Audio ça me fait chier , je préférerais du SACD , comme ça aucune chance de nous faire chier avec les paroles des chansons ( comme si on ne les avaient pas encore ! et n'importe quel conneries vidéos d'ailleur , on connait l'histoire favorite de Ray par coeur ! ) ,etc .... Et aussi , si ils pouvaient autoriser la sortie audio en numérique , on pourrait passer par le convertisseur N > A de notre ampli HC .... tiens , juste pour voir ..... sans pour autant nous priver des sorties stéréo analogique , pour notre ampli HiFi ... Va falloir que je fasse parvenir ça a Botnick , il faut un coefficeint de DOWNMIX sur ces foutus DVD-A ! Faut penser qu'il y a tellement de config' différent coté auditeurs .... et puis vu ce qu'il va falloir encore dépenser comme fric , j'en veux pour mon fric justement ! |
| UniversalMindz 26 Jan 2005, 13:49 | *Je vais de ce pas, m'arranger avec Indianswirl1973* (( Je sais que c'est mon très cher ami: Lameo (pour les intimes, Lament of an indian) qui possède la bande de Pittsburgh '70... )) |
| mojo 26 Jan 2005, 13:52 | heuu, tu serais d'accord de m'envoyer ce "ship of fool" du Bakerfield? |
| Christophe 26 Jan 2005, 13:55 | Et pour les DVD Audio , concernant la stéréo haute résolution : de la vrai masterisation en haute résolution a partir du master stéréo d'origine ou de la fausse masterisation a partir du master CD 16/44.1 sur lequel on aura creuser les basses et remonter les aigus , afin que cela " sonne " mieux ? Car sur le DVD Audio de LA Woman je me demande si on ne s'est pas fait avoir ... car comparer au CD ...................... |
| Christophe 26 Jan 2005, 13:57 | Et puis merde je m'en fous aprés tout , je ne suis plus fan des Doors alors ...... |
| mojo 26 Jan 2005, 14:06 | löhl |
| Christophe 26 Jan 2005, 14:16 | Suis a moitié bourrer et assez fatiguer ... a quand un foutu concours pour gagner un truc genre alternate machin chose ? Complete bidule chouette ? |
| Sagittaire 26 Jan 2005, 14:18 | ouais jcrois que jvais faire la même lol.... |
| Christophe 26 Jan 2005, 14:22 | Sauf que moi je suis sérieux car j'en ai plus rien a foutre ..... |
| mojo 26 Jan 2005, 14:39 | pas mal bourré à mon avis... tu me grave le bakerfield svp? |
| UniversalMindz 26 Jan 2005, 15:00 | Repose-toi, tu en as besoin. Bonne Nuit, fais de beaux rêves Christophe ;) Et aux autres, également. |
| Sagittaire 26 Jan 2005, 17:14 | C du délire là lol !!! Ohhh c'est Léna qui a bordée (avec elle) tout le monde là ? c'est Léna qui aura le mot de la fin ce soir ???? C'est quoi ces cobayes hypnotisés........ok dsl jretourne taffer. |
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